212. Alnoor Ladha & Lynn Murphy: Post capitalism, ontoshifting and the inner workings of the neoliberal culture
Alnoor Ladha and Lynn Murphy came by the podcast talking about their work with post capitalism (webpage). This is a deep and through provoking conversation from a place in contact with also outside of the neoliberal, capitalist, western worldview. We touch upon a many different aspects of what being ecultured in modernity entails: our addiction to comfort, the importance of understanding the time we are born into, the assumption of our entitlement to know, to be certain. Alnoor and Lynn also link the spiritual, economic, political and religous very clearly and suggests a direction for where we might want to be headed. This is a deep and revealing conversation that I hope you will enjoy. I certainly did. Host: Amit Paul
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Why is philanthropy not the 'solution' to our current predicament?
Alnoor Ladha and Lynn Murphy visited the World of Wisdom 🎙️ Podcast EP 212. Post capitalist realities and what it would take to get there.
I'm am making my way though their book Post Capitalist Philanthropy and I find it refreshingly "no BS". The foundational thesis is that: No approach that is dependent on the current system for funding will be able to break out of the current paradigm.
The conversation went much deeper than that however. Here are some of my favourite quotes:
🔑 How to get out of the unholy trinity of materialism, rationality and separation: "Let the checkmate of where we are in late stage capitalism let it rub with another way of kind of being and knowing that is calling to us. Let the friction open up the crack."
🎯 What you can do to build your agency:
"You have to first understand the time in which you were born because if you are not contextually sensitive you are not contextually relevant."
👁 Where to rest your attention:
It is not the what you do but the maner by which you approach that matter most (paraphrasing)
I found out about Lynn and Alnoor work through the Local Futures gathering last fall. It's important work. Listen to the full conversation where you listen to podcasts: World of Wisdom 🎙️ Podcast EP212.
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Summary
The conversation explores the topics of philanthropy, capitalism, neoliberalism, and the need for ontological shifts in our approach to the world. The speakers discuss the unholy trinity of materialism, separation, and rationalism that shapes our perception and perpetuates the current system. They emphasize the importance of understanding the context of late-stage capitalism and the interconnectedness of spirituality and politics. The conversation also touches on the need to reevaluate our notions of progress and entitlement. The conversation explores the impact of culture and neoliberalism on our understanding of life, death, and consciousness. It delves into the clinging onto individual life and the seduction of a lost adolescent being. The importance of initiation and transcending the small self is discussed, along with the concepts of entitlement and entrustment. The Western understanding of consciousness is contrasted with alternative ontologies. The antidotes to materialism, rationalism, and separation are explored, as well as the practice of onto-shifting. The conversation concludes with reflections on walking into the unknown and expressing gratitude and appreciation.
Takeaways
Late-stage capitalism and neoliberalism are interconnected systems that perpetuate inequality, hierarchy, and exploitation.
The unholy trinity of materialism, separation, and rationalism shapes our perception and reinforces the current system.
An ontological shift is necessary to challenge the dominant paradigm and create post-capitalist realities.
Understanding the context of late-stage capitalism and the interconnectedness of spirituality and politics is crucial for transformative change.
Reevaluating our notions of progress and entitlement can help us move towards more sustainable and just ways of being.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
08:23 Exploring Philanthropy and Capitalism
20:36 Understanding Neoliberalism and Late-Stage Capitalism
31:30 The Unholy Trinity: Materialism, Separation, and Rationalism
40:18 Cracks in the System and the Need for Ontological Shifts
51:31 Reevaluating Progress and Entitlement
52:53 The Impact of Culture and Neoliberalism
55:24 The Clinging onto Individual Life
56:19 The Seduction of Lost Adolescent Being
57:31 The Entitlement and Entrustment of Life
01:01:29 The Western Understanding of Consciousness
01:06:26 The Ontology of Consciousness
01:09:33 The Antidotes to Materialism, Rationalism, and Separation
01:13:36 Transition Pathways and Onto-Shifting
01:20:43 Walking into the Unknown
01:25:22 The Addiction to Comfort and the Gateway of Letting Go
01:27:16 Traversing the Threshold and Surrendering to Life and Death
01:29:47 Expressing Gratitude and Appreciation
01:30:29 Closing Remarks and Links